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01:21:54  

HE TWEETED MANY TIMES ABOUT THE ROGER STONE SENTENCING. A.G. BARR: I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES.

01:22:02  

YOU ARE AWARE OF THEM BECAUSE YOU SAID IT HURT YOU FROM DOING YOUR JOB. ISN'T IT TRUE THAT WHEN PROSECUTORS IN THE ROGER STONE CASE FILED A MEMO WITH THE...

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I AM RECLAIMING MY TIME. YOU FILED A SENTENCING RECOMMENDATION HOURS AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP TWEETED HIS DISSATISFACTION WITH THE STONE RECOMMENDATION. YOU...

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YOU ARE HERE TO ANSWER MY QUESTION. I AM RECLAIMING MY TIME. I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER. THE FACTS ARE CLEAR. SENTENCING RECOMMENDATION MADE IN THE...

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IT WAS MADE BEFORE AND AFTER. WHEN YOU FILED YOUR SENTENCING RECOMMENDATION ASKING FOR A LOWER SENTENCE, YOU SAID YOU WOULD RECOMMEND A LOWER SENTENCE. WASN'T...

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YOU ARE EXPECTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU DID NOT DO WHAT TRUMP WANTED YOU TO DO. WHEN YOU CHANGE THAT SENTENCING RECOMMENDATION AND LOWERED...

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YOU DID WHAT THE PRESIDENT WANTED YOU TO DO. A.G. BARR: DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR FOR A 67-YEAR-OLD MAN TO BE SENT TO PRISON FOR 7-9 YEARS.

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YOU JUST SAID THAT IT WAS AN ACCORDING TO THE SENTENCING. WILL MOVE ON FROM THAT. YOU NEVER CHANGED A SENTENCE RECOMMENDATION FOR A FRIEND OF GEORGE...

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OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR TIME WITH TOP -- TRUMP, YOU CHANGED TO SENTENCING RECOMMENDATIONS. A.G. BARR: WHICH WHERE THEY?

01:25:43  

MICHAEL FLYNN. A.G. BARR: I DIDN'T CHANGE IT.

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YOU INDICATED -- YOU CHANGED IT BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL SENTENCING WAS FOR HIM TO SERVE 0-6 MONTHS, BUT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTED THAT RECOMMENDATION...

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GO BACK AND READ IT. RECLAIMING MY TIME.

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TIME HAS EXPIRED.

01:26:35  

YOU CAN GIVE A SPEECH OR YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS. IF YOU DO THE LATTER, YOU NEED TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

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THANK YOU FOR APPEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE TODAY. THERE IS A DISTURBING PATTERN WE HAVE SEEN THROUGHOUT HISTORY WITH TOTALITARIAN SYSTEMS OF GOVERNMENT. THEY...

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01:31:37  

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO THE SPEECHES THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN BY THE OTHER SIDE WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN CUT OFF?

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BARR: -- >> THE GENTLEMAN TIME IS EXPIRED. A.G. BARR: AND I ASK FOR A RECESS?

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10 MINUTES? A.G. BARR: FIVE.

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WE WILL STAND IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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THE COMMITTEE IS IN RECESS.

01:32:39  

THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HEARING FROM ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR. THE CHAIR, JERRY NADLER, WAS ON A FENDER BENDER. TAKING A SHORT BREAK HERE AT THE REQUEST...

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THE COMMITTEE IS IN SESSION.

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THANK YOU. YOU JUST TOLD US THAT NOTHING WAS EVER ELEVATED. YOU SAID IN AN INTERVIEW RECENTLY THERE IS A ESCALATION IN PLACE. HOW WAS THIS ELEVATED TO...

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HAD IT BEEN ELEVATED BETWEEN THE TWO MONTHS THAT THIS CAME IN UNDER THE FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY? A.G. BARR: I THINK HE MAY HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE.

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DID YOU EVER HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS CASE?

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I DO NOT RECALL ANY DISCUSSION.

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YOU SAID IN THE INTERVIEW THAT HE WAS NEW, HE HAD JUST STARTED. BUT HE HAD WORKED FOR YOU FOR A LONG TIME. WHAT WAS HIS JOB? A.G. BARR: WHEN I WAS ATTORNEY GENERAL...

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HE ADVISED YOU ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE POLICY? A.G. BARR: CORRECT.

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YOU NAMED HIM ACTING U.S. ATTORNEY. HAD YOU DISCUSSED THE STONE CASE WITH HIM? A.G. BARR: NO. YOU SAID HE CAME IN THE WEEK BEFORE. TO SEE SOME SENIOR STAFF. A.G....

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THE FIRST WEEK HE WAS THERE HE CAME TO RAISE THIS ISSUE. A.G. BARR: I THINK HE STARTED FEBRUARY 1.

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THAT IS WHAT YOU TOLD ABC NEWS. THAT HE TALKED TO SENIOR STAFF. A.G. BARR: I THINK I SPEAK ENGLISH. HE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS. DID YOU TALK TO THE SENIOR...

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THEY SAID HE WAS TRYING TO WORK SOMETHING OUT. HE WAS OPTIMISTIC THAT SOMETHING COULD BE WORKED OUT.

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HE FILED THE SENTENCING MEMO AND IT CALLED FOR 7-9 YEARS. THEN YOU OVERRULED AND ASKED FOR A LOWER SENTENCE. DID THAT APPLY TO ROGER STONE? A.G. BARR:...

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DOES THAT APPLY? A.G. BARR: NO. DID WHAT APPLY?

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HEALTH. A.G. BARR: HEALTH IS A REASON.

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WAS THAT THE CASE FOR ROGER STONE? AGE CAN BE A CONSIDERATION ONLY IF IT CREATES CONDITIONS TO AN UNUSUAL DEGREE. HE IS 67. A.G. BARR: THE JUDGE AGREED...

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AM NOT ASKING YOU THAT. A.G. BARR: I KNOW YOU'RE NOT. THE ISSUE HERE IS WHETHER ROGER STONE WAS TREATED DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE HE WAS FRIENDS WITH THE PRESIDENT. WHEN...

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I AM NOT ASKING ABOUT THAT. I AM ASKING ABOUT WHAT YOU DID TO REDUCE THE SENTENCE HE THREATENED THE LIFE OF A WITNESS. A.G. BARR: CAN I ANSWER THE QUESTION?

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I AM ASKING IF THERE IS ANOTHER TIME. A.G. BARR: THE JUDGE AGREED WITH ME.

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IT IS THE APPEARANCES. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. THE RULE OF LAW FOR EVERYBODY. AND WE DON'T IN THIS CASE BECAUSE HE IS A FRIEND OF THE PRESIDENT.

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THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I AM A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE AND THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE. HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE FUNDING IN THE OPERATION OF THE DEPARTMENT. I...

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I AM HAPPY TO HAVE YIELDED YOU TIME TO RESPOND. I AM A DEPARTING MEMBER OF CONGRESS. I HAVE JUST A FEW SHORT MOMENTS LEFT. I WANT TO EXPRESS TO YOU HOW MUCH...

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LAST AUGUST, WHEN SPEAKING TO THE NATIONAL FRATERNAL ORDER OF PLACE, YOU SHARED YOUR VIEWS THAT THIS WILL MAKE EVERYONE SAFE. YOU SAID ZERO-TOLERANCE FOR RESISTING...

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A ZERO IS COSTING LIVES. ELIJAH MCCLAIN WAS WALKING HOME FROM A CONVENIENCE STORE WHEN HE WAS APPROACHED BY POLICE. HE HAD NOT COMMITTED A CRIME. POLICE...

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I GUESS YOU HAVE NOT EVALUATED THE USE OF FORCE TACTICS SINCE BECOMING ATTORNEY GENERAL. A.G. BARR: NOT WITH RESPECT TO THAT.

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WILL YOU COMMIT TO DIRECTING THE DEPARTMENT TO EVALUATING THE PROTOCOLS AROUND THE USE OF KETAMINE, CHOKEHOLD, AND OTHER USES OF FORCE? A.G. BARR: ABSOLUTELY. UNDER...

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ESPECIALLY THE KETAMINE. THAT IS PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS. GEORGE FLOYD WAS KILLED BY A POLICE OFFICER VIA CHOKEHOLD. HE WAS SUSPECTED OF USING A COUNTERFEIT...

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01:50:50  

I RACIST TOO EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MY COLLEAGUE FROM TEXAS HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER. THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT DOING ENOUGH TO ADDRESS ISSUES OF RACISM,...

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PART OF THAT ACT CALLED FOR A NATIONAL REGISTRY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. TAMIR RICE MIGHT BE ALIVE TODAY IF THE POLICE CHIEF WHO HIRED THAT OFFICER...

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THANK YOU. I WANT TO COMMENT ON PART OF YOUR OPENING STATEMENT WHEN YOU SAID AFTER THE JIM CROW. THAT OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM WAS EQUAL. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT. A.G....

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THEY ARE CERTAINLY NOT APPLIED EQUALLY. WE HAVE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT. 2.3 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE U.S. ARE INCARCERATED. 34% ARE BLACK. WHILE...

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YOU DESCRIBED THE PROSECUTION OF ROGER STONE AS RIGHTEOUS. WOULD SUGGEST THAT UNCOVERING THE CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY THAT EXISTS WHERE PEOPLE IN OUR OWN GOVERNMENT...

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SOME SAY ANTIFA IS A MYTH. THAT THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS VIOLENCE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT ISRAEL. WHAT IS YOUR REACTION? A.G. BARR: I DON'T THINK IT IS...

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THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION WHEN CONSIDERING HOW TO APPLY OUR RICO LAWS TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THAT STRIKES ME AS LEGALLY DISTINCT. I WONDER...

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